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stig ended his missive thusly: >i think that people have been touching on one basic thing - - most of this >stuff is about being slightly underground (in a relative sense) and it's >just creeping out through the culture - - sorta like water creeping >through >concrete until it makes it disintegrate . . . well spoken, dude: butcept that metaphorical concrete never actually does disintegrate, does it? the water creeps through, till someone is irritated enough to 'fix' the cracks. anyway, my take on the metaphor purty much ends, there, thankfully..... ruminating..... dt / S-C