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"Liebig, Steuart A." wrote: > > > I'd say the term 'out' probably comes from > 'outsider'...music created by people outside mainstream & > academic schools...like "outsider art". So it seems like a > term that may be as misleading today as "New Music"... I > prefer the blanket (vague) term 'creative music' because it > refers to the full spectrum of the music and reflects the > efforts of composers and musicians constantly trying new > things, ** while i tend to agree with you, the usage of the > term "creative music" does imply that people cannot be > creative in other musical endeavors and often makes me feel > that i am being elitist ifi use it. when people ask me what > i do i am often at a loss for words. stig > "once upon a time there was a little boy and he went outside." -harry partch ca.1969, preface to the 2nd edition of genesis of a music lance g.