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At 7:34 PM -0800 2/25/01, scott kungha drengsen wrote: >I >don't think one can consider David Torn,Bill Frissell,Terje Rypdal,Nels >Cline,or I guess part of what I'm saying is that people like that are interesting in terms of using a guitar in conjunction with loops, but in the overall scheme of loops used in music, they seem rather minor in comparison to others. >Gibson's interest or ability to sell the Echoplex without some >acknowlegdement of Hendrix. Well, I was actually there for Gibson's decisions regarding the echoplex, and I can assure you that Hendrix' name did not come up. If we had been thinking Hendrix, we would have been making vintage wahs and fuzz pedals since that was the big trend in music gear at the time. A lot of people there were very much involved in "new music" or whatever we've decided to call it, and the influence of composers like Paul Dresher, Pauline Oliveros, Eno, Terry Riley, etc was much more a part of their thinking. Another big part of it was the obviously huge role that hip-hop and electronic dance music and dj-culture were playing in the music world by the early 90's. Much of what we were working on revolved around real-time electronic instruments, intended for performing. It seemed natural that all of this loop and sample-oriented popular music was going to influence various instrumentalists to want to do these things live, so a real-time sampler/looper seemed like a great product idea to connect to that. I would say somebody like Al Jourgenssen would be much more of an influence there at a guitar company, since he was one of the first people really making it popular for heavily guitar oriented music to make major use of sampling and loops. So our line of thinking was more, "hey, you can do Ministry live!" And lastly, the echoplex was just ridiculously fun to use, and everybody who saw it thought it was a blast, and that seemed like reason enough.... Now I suppose you could make some Hendrix connection there if you try hard enough (six degrees of jimi....), but it was really pretty far removed from anybody's mind. If anything we were going the opposite way: get away from the vintage thing and create something new that reflects modern trends in music. Well, that's not 100% correct when I think about it. Adding reverse was definitely a Hendrix backwards-guitar sort of an idea. But if you know about the crazy way reverse is implemented on the echoplex, you can tell that it was an afterthought. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com