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At 1:01 PM -0500 3/3/01, Tommy Kochel wrote: >My system is simple: my instrument into the GR-33. The GR-33 effects >loop >out to a Digitech Talk Box, the Talk Box to the EDP, and the EDP back to >the >Return of the GR-33. I just took a look at a picture of the GR-33 on Harmony Central <http://www.harmony-central.com/Newp/WNAMM00/Roland/GR-33_big.jpg> There appear to be three audio outputs and two audio inputs: MIX OUT L(MONO) MIX OUT R(PHONES) GUITAR OUT FX RETURN L(MONO) FX RETURN R I believe the "normal" signal from the guitar is provided by the GK input. Because of the way "GUITAR OUT" is labeled I assume this is a simple copy of the incoming guitar signal. The GR-33 also has an internal effects send, to be used in conjunction with its built-in effects processor. It seems probable that this internal effects send has nothing at all to do with the GUITAR OUT jack on the GR-33, nor dose the stereo RETURN have anything to do with the internal effects send. What you should probably be doing is to feed signal to your EDP from an effects send on your mixer. Patch the GUITAR OUT and the MIX OUT from the GR-33 into three of your mixer's inputs, then patch one of the mixer's effects sends to the Talk Box and EDP and patch the output of the EDP back into the mixer. Adjust the relative levels of guitar, guitar synthesizer, and EDP and also adjust the send levels on both the regular guitar and guitar synthesizer channels. You should be fine. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD zvonar@zvonar.com (818) 788-2202 voice zvonar@LCSaudio.com (818) 788-2203 fax zvonar@well.com http://www.zvonar.com