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At 1:01 PM -0500 3/3/01, Tommy Kochel wrote: >I just got my EDP and can loop with my guitar sound, but not >the MIDI sounds from my GR-33. > >My system is simple: my instrument into the GR-33. The GR-33 effects >loop >out to a Digitech Talk Box, the Talk Box to the EDP, and the EDP back to >the >Return of the GR-33. > >Yet I cannot hear any GR-33 patches looped. I sounds like the effects loop on the GR-33 is sending the normal guitar tone out to the Talk Box and EDP and that the effects return is being mixed with the GR-33's synthesizer sounds and then routed to the outputs. That would mean you'd be hearing looped guitar (with Talk Box) and unlooped synthesizer sounds. Does the GR-33 allow you to select which signal or combination of signals is being routed out the effects send? >Do I need a couple MIDI cables to send tone information OUT from the >GR-33, IN to the EDP, then OUT from the EDP and back IN to the GR-33? If by "tone information" you mean the sounds of the GR-33's built-in synthesizer, the answer is NO. MIDI cables do not carry real-time audio signals. They are meant to transmit control data only. If by "tone information" you mean a data dump related to the GR-33's built-in synthesizer, the answer is still NO. The EDP wouldn't know what to do with the Roland's system exclusive data. I'm not directly familiar with either the EDP or the GR-33, but it sounds to me like you could use a basic tutorial in audio signal routing and the nature of MIDI. I'll be happy to help you with that off-list if you like. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD zvonar@zvonar.com (818) 788-2202 voice zvonar@LCSaudio.com (818) 788-2203 fax zvonar@well.com http://www.zvonar.com