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this was that LD post, Rick......I would love to use this technique with some of my students. Please fill me in. MAx Another good thing to do is to learn how to play behind the beat or ahead of the beat with total impunity. This is a longer discussion and if you or anyone else wants to hear it, I'll be happy to post a very cool trick I invented for teaching a rank beginner how to do this against a metronomic track. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com