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lindsey and all, my apologies for offending anyone with an innocent question about something im trying to build. i had no idea it was such re-hashed idea. although tibet bowls are fantastic, im talking more about the performance value of having a strange rotating drone object whirring away as our group performs and also asking a question involving the tactile side of things, specifically-- what material would best synthesize a human finger. ive tried erasers, all sorts of plastic, but nothing seems to be 'gentle' enough... I don't know if I could stand another oscilloscope-laden dispute over fundamentals and the harmonic properties of a bell-shaped instrument. huh? actualy, nevermind... i dont want to know :) -curt lindsay@pavestone.com on 04/05/2001 11:48:49 AM Please respond to Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com cc: Subject: Re: question on bowing, looping mechanisms We're not going to start talking about Tibetan Bowls again, are we? I don't know if I could stand another oscilloscope-laden dispute over fundamentals and the harmonic properties of a bell-shaped instrument. Even though I think I fomented a great deal of the furor. "Curtis P Seiss" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com <seisscp@wash cc: post.com> Subject: Re: question on bowing, looping mechanisms 04/05/01 10:34 AM Please respond to Loopers-Delig ht clever! this thread will ultimatley lead back to looping... i wanted to share this idea : my wife visualizes a "turn-table hurdy-gurdy" in which a chrystal coblet is placed on the platter of a turn-table and an arm is constructed above the glass to "bow" the rim as it rotates to produce that old, familiar yet mysteriously beatiful tone. its seems like a great idea, so... whats the problem? ususally when creating those wonderfull wine glass drones, on would apply just a bit of vinager on the finger to get the perfect friction for coaxing out the harmonics- however, its not so easy to reproduce the delicate touch required with crude crunstruction technique and lack of materials to experiment with. has anyone tried to build something similar to this? i think this would make a great stage piece for our unusual brand of music (loops loops!) but the most important final element would be the "finger" part of the mechanism. any ideas on what we could try? -curt (hoping this is of the slightest interest) Hedewa7@aol.com on 04/04/2001 10:55:16 PM Please respond to Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com cc: Subject: Re: question on bowing >rich wrote: >> paul, >> can you be a bit more specific about the ebow on the hammered >> dulcimer? Where abouts do you hold it in relation to the bridge(s)? >> can you use it on all of the registers? interesting >> application...never thought of doing that one...till tonight, that >> is. thanks. well, i thunk that the subject was bowing-with-a-bow, but: since it turned into e-bowing: i have a kikuyae ---(chrysanthemum harp)--- which is a japanese folk-instrument, inna dulcimer-stylie. i built a lil 'fan' w/a brushless motor ---(that i got from radio shack/tandy)--- which is mounted above the strings. when the motor is turned on, the soft blades of the fan brush the strings into activity: kinda like the old 'gizmotron', but simpler: homemade bowing: DIY: great for looping..... best, splattercell / dt