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I have one of these Rolls switchers too. The manuals suck (actually there IS no real manual). Anyway, How are you using the 4 switches (not teh effects loops)? I know that they are for things like switching amp channels, etc. but are there any other interesting uses? Ever used the Rolls 402 Volume Pedal as a control voltage pedal? I can't get mine to work. I believe it is broken because it won't even work as a regular old volume pedal! Alex F/Brain21 <--------========b21========--------> Brain21 - www.brain21.net www.mp3.com/Brain21 Buy individual songs @ http://www.nrmmusic.com/customcds.htm <--------========b21========--------> =>-----Original Message----- =>From: whiteoakstudios [mailto:whiteoakstudios@supanet.com] =>Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 5:22 AM =>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =>Subject: Re: midi rolls & gig stuff => => =>Just wanted to share my delight in my new looping interface. =>Thanks to my =>new midi rolls pedal I have 4 switches and 4 pedals plugged =>up and sending =>midi messages to Kyma. I used it for the first time live last =>night. Four =>independant stereo delay lines, (3.6secs, 7.2s, 14.4s and =>28.8s, (that's a =>lot of secs for one night oops )) for some dense =>texturing/detexturing. =>Keepng track of what I recorded where was the only problem. =>Incidentally I decided to tell my audience what was going on =>in the sense =>that I was live multitracking. A few people came up and said they =>appreciated this information without which they would have =>assumed I was =>using backing tracks. =>PS I also used two Leslie speakers, (Dawson & Neilson) - I =>feel I'm getting =>closer to, (lots of reverb) THE ULTIMATE RIG- =>WHOOOHOHOHAHHAHAHAHHEHEHE................. => =>Gareth, (calming down now) =>