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At 11:35 PM -0700 5/21/01, Richard Zvonar wrote: >Gibson is the "Evil Empire." My personal plea is that people >permanently boycott Gibson in memory of the smaller companies they >have absorbed in Borg-like fashion. >-- those of us who have managed to work successfully with Gibson for years without getting ourselves screwed over, and are finally beginning to see some fruits of all the years if labor we've invested the EDP, would really appreciate it if you didn't do that. Afterall, Gibson's put a lot of effort and money keeping this product alive. Nothing forced them to do that, they just believed in it and believed in the potential of looping. Since this is a forum about looping, and the echoplex is a product many people seem to like here, it seems to me it should be a reason to praise Gibson, not dis them. For years people complained that Gibson wasn't doing enough for the echoplex. (although that was still a lot more than most other companies did for looping...) Now Gibson is doing something substantial, so we are supposed to hate them for supporting the looping community? That makes no sense. And I certainly don't see the point of trying to destroy the folks here who have put so much of themselves into creating new looping tools and instruments for this group. Whether you grasp it or not, that's exactly what you seem to be proposing. Matthias might finally stand a chance to make back some of the large amounts of time and money he invested in all of this. (me too, although not nearly so much.) Why do you want to take us down and deny us that, after all the work we've done for you? It IS all connected. You can't harm one part without harming the other. And for your silly boycott, if you take a look at Gibson's acquisitions, all of those companies had done an excellent job of destroying themselves well before Gibson came upon them. Gibson just shops for bargains, of which there are plenty in the music biz. This is not exactly the land of smart businessmen. Gibson may not always be easy to love, but blaming them for the screwups of others seems to be taking it a little far. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com