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Great, so I've got a gig tonight and both my loop boxes are playing up! The DL4 is still making weird noises, though I've since discovered that if you have two outputs connected, the weird noise is confined to the Right channel, so so long as I have two jacks connected and only want to run one signal I'm fine... problem is, I usually run from both outputs, allowing me to put my JamMan in a separate loop, which means that there's no through signal and therefor less noise in the chain, and also means that I can use a separate volume pedal after the JamMan to fade that loop without fading the DL4 now my JamMan is playing up!!!!!!!! It keeps resetting the loop - the input level light and the display flicker and each time they do the loop is wiped. I've taken it apart and checked for loose chips, I've unplugged the footswitch and triggered it from the front panel to see if it was the lead or the switch (it isn't), I've switched power supplies (still the same) and worst of all, I've got a gig tonight, playing what looks like being my longest ever solo set in a Restaurant in London, and could really do with having both units working!!!!! F**ing technology - why didn't I just learn acoustic guitar?????? grrrrrrrrr Steve web-site - www.steve-lawson.co.uk e-mail - steve@steve-lawson.co.uk mailing list - steve-lawson-subscribe@listbot.com (send a blank e-mail to this address) "Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight, You've got to kick at the darkness till it bleeds daylight" - Bruce Cockburn