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Sonar is just the follow on version of Cakewalk Pro Audio 9.0 ... it seems that they've integrated something that is similar to Acid in the Sonar product ... "SONAR hosts an entire audio loop construction toolkit for incorporating loops into your project quickly. Use SONAR to create and edit loop-based projects, and record additional audio and MIDI tracks for rich, layered sound." Although I have no experience with it. I would say it's definitely worth checking out and the DXi Soft Synths seem pretty interesting too. How about you check it out and let us know what you think? Acid 3.0 is a great product, but is only useful for those of us that use Windows based PCs. You could use Sonar to help with some of the MIDI file creation/editing portions of your Acid projects. -----Original Message----- From: Devious D_MasterMixer [mailto:dj_devious_d@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 11:02 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: To All My Software Based Loopy Brothers ! Ok, it's me again, with a very OT or OnT (what's the difference ?). I have just gotten a hold of a copy of the two CD set of Cakewalk's SONAR 1.0...(my buddy at Guitar Center, let me check out the store's copy, before I decided to shell out the bucks to buy it.... we got it like that). Well, I was wondering, before I install this Puppy, has anyone out there used this app for anything ? I know I can play with it all I want, but I was wondering what the masses have to say about this app. Has anyone did anything with it, etc. I am an ACID man (no, not the drug !), the app. And I have had no problems using that app (now that I have 3.0... I am MIDI crazy, but I digress), so I need your help. I know the app is somewhat new (I missed the workshop at my local Guitar Center, that's why my buddy there let me check out the store's copy... they know I am a "Software-Head".). Yet, I digress again.