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That's been my experience. I've been to outdoor shows where I literally could not hear one or more musicians because the engineer had them panned too hard. FWIW, YMMV, I've heard great sounding shows in mono, but most of those bands were more of the straight up rock variety. You only need to be concerned with relative levels and phase cancellation, as opposed to relative levels, phase cancellation, and stereo imaging on two independent channels. I think it's at least a small order of magnitude more complex to mix stereo live. I actually think going quad would just as easy to get a decent balance, as long as you didn't have too many statically panned elements. But the performance space has such a huge impact. Looping performances tend to have a different aesthetic than the rock band, and I'd want to do my mostest to carry off a stereo performance. I suspect that more subtle panning of select textures, using stereo panning to create motion for some elements, and a fairly narrow spread for the base elements of a peice might be the first tack I'd take. What have been other people's experiences with playing stereo live? I know we've had a whole quad/oct monitor discussion before, but I'm still interested in a discussion like this. Anyone else? Thanks, Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark" <sine@zerocrossing.net> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 12:17 AM Subject: Re: DON'T TRUST THE SOUND MAN > Most PA setups don't do stereo for the reason that (especially outside) you've > got people all over the place that want to hear the full mix. If you've got a > lot of stereo information going out, you risk that people on one side are pretty > much not going to hear half the mix. Aside from my webcasts and small cafes, I > always go mono in larger clubs. > > Mark > > whiteoakstudios wrote: > > > I just give the sound man a stereo feed and use my own in-ear monitoring - > > at least then it sounds good to me and I just tell the sound man/woman to > > pan hard right and left, with no eq. > > It takes a real idiot to mess up those instructions - though last time I > > played out of doors and followed the above I came down from stage and asked > > a freind how it went and he said"fine but I though you could have done more > > with stereo placement". I replied that the sound was bouncing all over the > > place - turns out the PA man runs it all in mono!! > > > > Gareth > > > > just got in from my gig opening for SUGAR DADDY AND THE BIG BONED > > GALS.....went in 2 hours early for a sound check....."we supply all the > > speakers etc.".....the sound guy took all my inputs and rearranged them in > > my > > mixer and sent it out to his console.....for about 2 mins this sounded ok > > (total sound check) but i was worried and not quite happy.....i am not a > > great or even good player, but i do pride myself in "my sound".....WELL, > > 8:00 > > o'clock comes and the first note i hit sounds like *shit* and i begin to get > > worried.....this is nothing like what we had set up and his configuration > > totally freaked me, things were not where they should have been.....where > > was > > the sound guy, NOWHERE TO BE FOUND.....yikes, the show must go on and no one > > wants to see a 53 year old man cry, although i was sweating like a pig in > > the > > sahara, so thankfully they could not see my tears.....IT WAS AWFUL, i had no > > control of anything, boy does that make you feel like being > > adventuresome.....then after cutting it about 10 mins. short everyone comes > > up and says "wow that was cool " and LIES to that effect.....thankfully the > > WILD TURKEY (sorry no scotch) kicked in and i did not burn my guitar and > > rang.....i will never play through someone elses system again.....in fact, > > this solo thing is getting to weird, i need other warm bodies to help the > > tunes out.....sorry for such a goofy post but if i cant share this with you > > all who can i share it with.....:(m >