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if things actually worked in theory......lol~ shane >From: Goddess <thefates@earthlink.net> >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: DON'T TRUST THE SOUND MAN >Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 11:29:58 -0600 > > I also control my mix from the stage. The only people I've EVER felt >comfortable with, working with the mix, were certain bandmates, or a >co-worker who was a sound person. and, even then there were issues with >some of the band. The idea that the sound person is supposed to HELP in >the process is a really good one, but *laughing* it seems particularly >rare to me, when musicians report on that actually happening. I think >that >part of it is that anybody can be a "sound person" and worse yet, some >have >the attitude that they know it all, because they really don't. <smile> >The ones who do, usually won't act like it! lol! Anyway, -just my >thoughts... > >Smiles, > >Goddess > > At 11:47 AM 7/20/01 -0500, you wrote: > >i understand the need to want to control all your gear from the >stage...but > >just to throw in my 2 cents worth...thats the soundman's basic job to > >amplify, mix, and produce a clear audible whole for the front house to >hear. > >i do know how you feel because i have felt the same way before as a > >musician, especially being a mallet/percussion player. However, i have > >become a house soundman at a club this year and now understand the > >importance of having control over the front house. The soundman's KEY >job > >is to make you sound better!!!! period. if he is not accomplishing that >goal > >i would suggest bringing your own soundman to the gig...which of course >isnt > >always affordable...but if at all possible, it makes a crucial >difference >to > >have someone on your side out front makin sure the audience hears what >your > >playin the way you want them to hear it. > >shane > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Jehn <juno7@cfl.rr.com> > >To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > >Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 8:22 AM > >Subject: Re: DON'T TRUST THE SOUND MAN > > > > > >> Don't give up on the solo gig! I hook everything together on my >mackie > >> onstage and send the outs through a D/O back to the sound guy and >control > >as > >> much as I can from stage. My last gig was as minimal as it can >possibly > >get. > >> Looping voice, I usually use a JamMan, and two old EchoPlus DSPs. >Well, > >two > >> of the three died prior to the gig, so I did my set with ONE >EchoPlus, >my > >> voice, and a harmonica. Now I'm all about minimalism. Intimacy is >good. > >> Congrats on your gig! > >> Jehn > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "whiteoakstudios" <whiteoakstudios@supanet.com> > >> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > >> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 2:42 AM > >> Subject: Re: DON'T TRUST THE SOUND MAN > >> > >> > >> > I just give the sound man a stereo feed and use my own in-ear > >monitoring - > >> > at least then it sounds good to me and I just tell the sound >man/woman > >to > >> > pan hard right and left, with no eq. > >> > It takes a real idiot to mess up those instructions - though last >time I > > > >> > played out of doors and followed the above I came down from stage >and > >> asked > >> > a freind how it went and he said"fine but I though you could have >done > >> more > >> > with stereo placement". I replied that the sound was bouncing all >over > >the > >> > place - turns out the PA man runs it all in mono!! > >> > > >> > Gareth > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > just got in from my gig opening for SUGAR DADDY AND THE BIG BONED > >> > GALS.....went in 2 hours early for a sound check....."we supply all >the > >> > speakers etc.".....the sound guy took all my inputs and rearranged >them > >in > >> > my > >> > mixer and sent it out to his console.....for about 2 mins this >sounded > >ok > >> > (total sound check) but i was worried and not quite happy.....i am >not a > >> > great or even good player, but i do pride myself in "my >sound".....WELL, > >> > 8:00 > >> > o'clock comes and the first note i hit sounds like *shit* and i >begin >to > >> get > >> > worried.....this is nothing like what we had set up and his > >configuration > >> > totally freaked me, things were not where they should have > >been.....where > >> > was > >> > the sound guy, NOWHERE TO BE FOUND.....yikes, the show must go on >and >no > >> one > >> > wants to see a 53 year old man cry, although i was sweating like a >pig > >in > >> > the > >> > sahara, so thankfully they could not see my tears.....IT WAS AWFUL, >i > >had > >> no > >> > control of anything, boy does that make you feel like being > >> > adventuresome.....then after cutting it about 10 mins. short >everyone > >> comes > >> > up and says "wow that was cool " and LIES to that >effect.....thankfully > >> the > >> > WILD TURKEY (sorry no scotch) kicked in and i did not burn my >guitar >and > >> > rang.....i will never play through someone elses system again.....in > >fact, > >> > this solo thing is getting to weird, i need other warm bodies to >help > >the > >> > tunes out.....sorry for such a goofy post but if i cant share this >with > >> you > >> > all who can i share it with.....:(m > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >--- > > "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. >-Then, anything is possible..." > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp