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Hello you Repeater hungry loopers-- I snagged this 4 second delay unit new at Sam Ash but even tho it is cool enough for the price, I can't wean myself off the EDP (still need a good second looper tho, unless Harvey Starr has finished the internal sequencer for the Ztar--I was hoping this one would serve as such, but alas no). It's brand new and battery powered, still got the warrantee card, and I would like to offer it for sale for what I paid for it, or close! $50 and you pay the shipping--if you're in LA, come and get it! Still no word from Denis, I wonder how his out-of-doors experience went. As far as the "sound man as failed musician" thread, I think a good sound man is "playing" music the same way a non-instrumentalist using delay lines is--so it's all music if you think it sounds good! Gary