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here's another first impression. on balance, i like it a lot. the good: - works as advertised: 4 tracks, fx insert, all the goodies. - pitch/time mods work well w/in "reasonable parameters" - *very* nice user interface: operation is quite 'transparent' for most common things limitations: - no mix control: creates potential feedback problems when looping from microphones. doesn't work well w/ RepeaTer on fx send of a mixer. - no way to go direct from initial record pass immediately into overdub: this prevents you from laying down an initial loop w/ sound which sustains through the endpoint. for example, since looping stereo reverb is one of the things i've been waiting to do w/ RepeaTer, this keeps me looping a long reverb tail on the initial pass. - no midi control of input level - trim after multiply of several tracks awkward: if several tracks have been multiplied and left in the 'virtual' state, trim will not operate until each track has been individually commited by an overdub or resample. trim should give the option of committing all virtual tracks en mass and then doing the request trim as a single operation. - resample doesn't work well in real time: the level and mute of the tracks is not adjusted after a resample to account for the new material. it would be nice if there were an option for resample to mute source tracks which are not also destination tracks. this wouldn't be perfect, but it would be better than the current situation where it generally ends up playing both source and resampled tracks together. warnings: - overdubbing while playing back a loop at extreme time stretch can generate *loud* artifacts if the loop is returned to normal tempo bugs: - trim undoes slip: trim seems to return tracks which have be slipped to non-zero offsets back to zero. they still display a slip amount however. nits: - yellow, "good" zone on input led seems quite small wishes: - loop knob control semitone pitch shift/beat slips: since the loop knob presently duplicates the operation of the tempo knob when modifying track pitch and slip, couldn't it be used to allow gross changes without the awkward & slow "move quickly for greater effect" operation of the tempo knob? - option for output level knob to control global level: instead of just controlling headphone level, i'd like a knob on the box to adjust the overall output level. ___ dan mcmullen, ca, usa don't worry - pay attention mailto:dog@well.com 707-485-0220 pgp fingerprint = 1C70 8D81 6B94 93A9 F2D8 9609 2122 BF70 8619 EDAF