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> surely played music by *definition* is abstract, unless you > are using samples or trying to imitate a real-world thing > with an instrument (which is less common than "just playing"...) so, would you consider the whole poetry not abstract because it is written ? I think there can be "abstract" music as well there is "figurative" music. certain art is not abstract because of the medium used to express it, there is a lot else more. luca