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At 3:40 PM -0700 9/24/01, Rick Walker (loop.pool) wrote: >Also, it is more abstract (please pardon my loose definition, Tom ;-) >but have you guys/gals checked out 'Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima' >by Krzysztof Penderecki? This has been a big influence on me. I was introduced to the piece in a class in the analysis of 20th century music at UCSC back in '77, and I've used such dense layerings in my own music ever since. I finally made my own Polish string orchestra piece in collaboration with bassist Robert Black. In that case all the sounds were from Robert's double bass playing: in some case multiple overdubs, in some cases layered sounds using TC2290 delays with long delay settings and feedback, in some cases layers of sampled arco bass on a MIDI sampler (using lots of slow pitch bends). The resulting 8-track backing tape was diffused though 12 surround speakers while Robert played solo in a concerto relationship. Penderecki's use of sound masses (or pitch bands, or noise bands - whatever you like to call them) is related in some ways to similar practice by Ligeti, Xenakis, and others, but Penderecki always does sound like himself. I once heard him conduct a piece commissioned by a factory. The sound of the orchestra quite resembled a huge assembly line. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz