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Perhaps u might wanna ck out REASON as it is sorta like rebirth (made by the same people, propellerhead) but with tons more sounds, better samples (IMHO) and decent MIDI integration as well as a quasi programmable synth engine tone (bass tones and more ) which goes from analog to FM sounding without any of the programming-editor hassles you may think of as being associated with FM tone generation in the past. You can use pre-set looped beats or make your own wicked stuff up ( plus you have a really wide parameter of control over each drum tone u choose to use). But REASON lets us get odd timed beats or 4/4 on the floor stuff all with a wide variety of drum kits and special f/x samples which are all tied together by an included SW mixer with aux sends ( reverb and Delay ) which is making REASON the main component of any dance floor or more electronic and beat and or synth tone generated material we are doing at present. You can also have a groove box and quickly exploit its potential but we think you will get way more flexibility in terms of what you can do beyond using preset patterns and it all integrates within REASON very well and more so than what you get with standalone gear with a minimal learning curve. BUt Check out some of the tones we have found using REASON at our mp3.com page: http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/206/akashmusiccom.html ( shameless plugging perhaps, but we make our own beats and came up with the following results using REASON) See specifically these songs: Interacial Sauna Amniotic Submission Daydream Dream Patterns A Melancholy Fluid Just Like a M.F. A good Date We also still use fruity loops too. but we find REASON gets the job done faster ( not necessarily better say in terms of quality, but its a faster working process with what we get from reason and the reults are tweakable in so many ways without having to switch between 2 or 3 apps at once and we get the benefit of having a wider selection of tones). But also ck out these Tunes that were done using Fruity Loops: In the name of Passion Flowers The premise of a sitting stool ropeburn This jealous dragon's daydream Welcome back home glory holes forever AKASH used to Use Rebirth but we found it a just little too narrow to say all we need to say. But ck out the song "Kali's Theme" & hopefully it says all it needs to say as it was done using rebirth :) NOW FOR THE GIG SPAM: AKASH @ BTS SEP. 29th ALL NITE LONG (9-30pm-3am) Attention all you dirty lil' space freaks out there... AKASH is now the House band for BTS ( Behind The Scenes www.phillyfetish.com-see website for location and details on admittance-meberships-entry, etc: call, 215 438 1946) Join us as AKASH renders a beautiful noise which fills the natural sound of the dungeon as we celebrate a micheievous and switachable Perspective of Surrender, Ambient Texture & Display a "Romantic Exhibitonism" like no other. This time "Loralai" takes on the role of a school girl who has misbehaved while studying in her bedroom with her friend "Iris Senseless". Their kinky Dom, "Master Ray", discovers our two heroines engaged in an "oral" debate without his permission. Loralai and Iris Senseless are subsequently subjected to a wicked and delicious punishment fit for only the naughtiest lil' submissives and taken with the greatest amounts of enthusiasm imaginable. *Also this performance marks the return of original AKASH Drummer Chuck D. ( not the guy from P.E. but the legendary Philly drummer from SUGARSMACK DADDY to Phil-Delphonic Jams) So if you are in the area and or perhaps into or curious about the BDSM lifestyle, this Saturday nite promises to be a not to miss affair. Warm Regards, John Price/AKASH "Remember To Always Kill Your Expectations" www.akashmusic.com