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Thanks- I will attempt the repair myself first- knowing the board is double sided as Andy pointed out should be helpful- but if not $60 total is better that over $100- and I know a great shop down the street who do tons of warranty repairs- I bet they would set it straight. Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Zang" <ericzang@mm2k.net> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 10:28 AM Subject: RE: vortex repair > A couple years ago I sent mine to a local repair shop (synthony in > Phoenix, AZ) for the encoder problem. Came out to $75. Then another time > which didn't require new parts, only $45. > > > >