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I've spent a fair amount of time in the past couple weeks trying to push my EDP skills. (That's also why I've been annoying the list with more questions...) One of my conclusions from this was that I just decided to supplement my EDP with a second EDP rather than a Repeater. I had thought that my big concern was going to be wanting to go to stereo looping, but after working with the EDP for a while I'm pretty certain the new unit is going to be used for running parallel loops. (FYI: Alto Music's stock is down to 30 some EDPs though there was a bit of tense moment on the phone when the guy I was talking to thought they might only have one left and he had to go check. I also needed to mention the Looper's list to get the $649 price. Even at that price, I still need to get ready for the looks my wife will give me when she tells me I'm over budget. I just need to figure out how to get her to buy an expensive loom...) That being said, for the stuff I'm doing the following items seem like they would be useful enhancements: * An input mode setting with options for input, mute, and "other loop". Other loop happens to be well-defined for me since I tend to work with only two loops. For people with more loops, perhaps this would always referenced the previous loop or the first loop unless we were working with the first loop in which case it would reference the last loop. The input option would work as things do now. The mute option would answer the concerns that have been raised by others about wanting to do things like multiply without adding sound. (If pushed, I could probably live without input mute, but it seemed reasonable to list it here since it's something others seem to want.) The other loop option would allow one to essentially paint with an existing loop. I'm assuming there is some reasonable definition of relative position in the loops that gets applied when doing loop switching. If the loops are the same length, painting with another loop would essentially build density for the material from the other loop. If the loops were of different lengths, all sorts of polyrhythmic combination could ensue. (For those who know Photoshop, think about history brush like effects.) Then there's the issue of where to put it in the UI since that seems to be the sticking point on various features. I could perhaps see this as an optional configuration for mute with the following meanings: short press of mute steps through the input modes -- change takes effect on button up long press of mute mutes the loop -- change takes effect on button up This assumes that one isn't using mute in a rhythmic fashion. * An alternative to Loop v. Delay mode that I will call Mix mode. The basic mechanics would be that when playing, the feedback level would be set to 100 (a la Delay). When multiplying or overdubbing, the feedback pedal would control the mix between existing signal (feedback = 100%) and new signal (feedback = 0%). The point to this would be to let one crossfade in another signal for some portion of the loop. The alternative right now seems to me to be trying to manipulate both a volume pedal and the feedback pedal at the same time. While the output of the Echoplex (prior to the input/loop mix knob) is generally always the looped signal, when working in Mix mode, it should probably be the mixed signal. While one can remain in Loop and Delay mode without switching, this would clearly need a way to switch it in and out. Personally, I would be prepared to sacrifice the Insert switch. Mix mode becomes particularly intriguing when using an existing loop as an input since you can do things like softly erase back to a base loop in spots). * When switching loops in play mode -- i.e., switching from playing one loop to playing another as opposed to switching into the other loop to modify it -- it would be nice if there were an option to do this as a crossfade over say one cycle. I've been working on trying to play over loop transitions, but that means I'm busy both thinking about playing and about picking the best point to abruptly transition loops. Mark