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Since I use the moniker, Loop.pooL, I'm particularly interested in this looped time phenomena today: At 8:02 p.m., it will be 20:02 20/02/2002 >From what I've read, this large of a palindromic time event will NEVER >occur again mathematically (of course, I'm sure Richard Zvonar will figure it out if the mathematicians are wrong ;-). In honor of this, I will compose a piece of loop based music this evening (beginning at 8:02 PST) that will use a palindromic rhythm (like Cascara, the Cuban rhythm that is at the heart of Rumba which, represented graphically looks like this: X*XX*X*XX*X*XX*X where X = 16th notes * = 16th rests When the short piece is finished, I will copy it, reverse the copy and append it to the original piece so that the entire piece will be a virtual loop based palindrome. If it doesn't suck, I'll put it on my 2nd Loop.pooL CD which should be released by the late summer of this year (I have a live CD which I was hoping to be finished by the LoopStock Festival coming up but my main computer C drive crashed and I am having a hell of a hard time installing WIN 98 on it (It's a Dell and used WIN ME, the worst operating system for music possible.......thank you Bill Gates :-( Wish me luck, yours, Rick Walker (loop.pool)