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> Not to be contrary (no, really) but there is an easy > way to do this with a > MIDI pedal. End the loop with a message containing > info to turn on overdub > and turn down the feedback all the way. Then end > the second pass with a > message containing info to turn off overdub and turn > up the feedback all the > way. Purty elegant and it achieves the desired > effect-- right, but in a live situation, MIDI isn't all that practical...i'm talking about performing with a band and layering a loop over a jam. i'm looking to this as easily as possible so that i can easily build my loop. i'm going to check out a repeater and an echoplex and see what is what...i might just stick with my rc-20 (for my purposes, it seems fine...especially since i'll have to macguyver up something to do what i want no matter what machine i'm using) e va n|n av e __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com