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You have checked out "LIVE" by ableton, right?? www.ableton.com It is a great program. Still young, but the best I've seen. It is like the PC's ACID but better, and it is built for live performance, so the music never stops. Radial should be good when it GETS FINISHED. the next version will see it supporting VST instruments, and it does run under OS X as well. Still not sure how to route all that stuff though.....I am doing the same thing, except am starting off with LIVE and some VSTi's. If you were looking at running all those things together, you may consider a powerbook. The problem right now is that OS X has support for everything you want: Eg. say you want to take the audio coming out of Cubase, run it through some more FX (running in a separate program) and then run it all back into LIVE. You could do it in X, the problem is that X only has a few audio apps available for it, and none of the majors - eg Protools Cubase, Logic. (Logics out soon though). I think you maybe need a program to run your FX/VSTis separately. Tell me what you think of LIVE. -Keith On Tuesday, February 26, 2002, at 08:14 PM, Jeff Blanding wrote: > instead of "lig rig" there i meant "live rig", sorry > > > On Monday, February 25, 2002, at 11:36 PM, Jeff Blanding wrote: > >> i've had trouble with Phrazer too actually... >> >> what i really need help with though is a set-up or arrangement for >> actually running a lig rig on the laptop, and how to "virtually wire" >> it in the software. for example, say you wanted to use Logic Audio for >> MIDI sequencing, and triggering samples, etc., and you wanted to be >> able to stop and start various bits at will. also, you wanted to send >> the audio output through effects (reverb, delay, etc.) and be able to >> modify the parameters of those easily live for improv purposes. also, >> you would have your sound sources of, aside from a few short samples, >> some soft synths like Absynth and maybe a virtual percussion >> instrument (perhaps VST). how can you best control all this for the >> live show? ReWire? do it all through LogicAudio? mb use Cubase, since >> Logic doesnt have much VST support? >> >> -j >> >> >> >> >> On Monday, February 25, 2002, at 07:46 PM, just john wrote: >> >>>> hello, >>>> >>>> i am thinking of getting an Apple iBook for live use as an instrument >>>> (softsynth, sampler, looper/fx). i would like to focus as much as >>>> possible on the iBook and have no external gear, since i am thinking >>>> of >>>> traveling a lot with it. has anyone on the list done looping or live >>>> electronic music with their mac laptop? what was the set-up, and do >>>> you >>>> have any tips or feedback from the experience? i have lots of >>>> questions >>>> about various things, such as how to route the signal internally and >>>> be >>>> able to go through various effects, use different apps at once (VST >>>> instruments, etc.), and mix it all into a pair of stereo outs. i've >>>> been >>>> playing with apps like Absynth, ReCycle, Phrazer, >>>> Cubase/Logic/ProTools, >>>> Reaktor, Koblo, various VST instruments and effects... i basically >>>> want >>>> to be able to route whatever sampler or softsynth i am playing >>>> through >>>> effects and also do some triggering and sequencing among the >>>> different >>>> apps. i mostly do live improv so i prefer triggering different >>>> samples >>>> manually to sequencing the whole thing, but i would be curious about >>>> sequencing also. >>>> >>>> anwyay, any relevant advice will be appreciated. >>>> >>>> thanks, >>>> jeff >>> >>> Well, cripes, you've already mentioned most of my bag of tricks, >>> except >>> Digital Perrformer and Max/MSP. But I have those two on two different >>> laptops. On this one, I have DP and Bitheadz' Unity. I've gotten >>> Phrazer >>> to do one or two nice things, tho it is a DEEPLY flawed product. I'm >>> looking forward to radiaL. Native Instruments has the freeware >>> Forumsynth, >>> and jhno's Looper is dandy, even with the play-only version of >>> Max/MSP. >>> >>> And for fun, search out Vocalwriter. >>> --- >>> * just-john@just-john.com http://just-john.com/cn/rfe.shtml * >>> >>> >> >> ----- >> Jeff Blanding >> jeff@modaldub.net >> http://www.modaldub.net >> >> "No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the >> continent, a part of the main. >> If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if >> a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend's or of thine >> own were: any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in >> mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it >> tolls for thee." >> - John Donne >> >> > > ----- > Jeff Blanding > jeff@modaldub.net > http://www.modaldub.net > > "No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the > continent, a part of the main. > If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if > a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend's or of thine > own were: any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in > mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it > tolls for thee." > - John Donne > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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