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I think it has to do with the circle - O. A universal energy thing. I could say a lot more, but maybe later. M.... At 10:22 AM 2/28/02 -0800, you wrote: >I am flying over the wast snowy US, full of expectations for new >experiences. I have only been twice to US for a longer time: >A raft trip down the Missisipy and hippy car travel to SF in '81 >A month at Gibson lab in '93 to update the LOOP delay to the Echoplex >(thats when I met Kim). >This time will be much different again, since I have the guitar with me. >... and I let the thoughts come: > >There have been congresses about any kind of subject, where >information is exchanged through speach and text. >There have been religious meetings to celebrate rituals of all kinds. >There have been concerts, festivals, where fans of some style >apreciated it together. >There have been workshops, where practical knowedge has been tought >in more or less free froms. > >But have you heard of a meeting of users of a new technology or style? >Did the saxophone players meet in the 40ies to show the whide >application of it to each other? Or the sythesizer players in the >60/70ies? >Or have you heard that musicians of some style met in a bigger number >in a organized way to exchange their music and tricks? > >What is it that looping has to call for such meetings? >Its not just now that it started. I dont know about the history, >please complete here. >I had that vision from the very start and on the first flyer about >the LOOP delay I suggested the foundation of: > "LOOPGROOP, Forum for Loopology and repetitive happenings". > >In '95, I started the first project to exchange tapes, which was not >a success (since I was too far away and I am not a talent in >organizing such things) but the tapes sent in ended up on the first >Loopers-Delight CD. >Only Kim and the internet made the exchange possible, and if you read >back the first postings to LD, you dont see "nice that there is a >place now where I can ask how to connect my equipment" but: ....... >Then more CDs, the CT project, Loop festivals kept naturally >happening, iniciated by many different people. So its not like a >religion that starts due to the inspiration of a guru, but due to the >"thing" that makes us invest time and efforts into a comunity. Its as >if we did believe in something that grows. > >Sure the Rastas believe in Reggae, but first of all they believe in >Jah, so its not the music that makes them meet. Country music has >some background with cows and hats and trucks that I dont understand >much about, but is definitally a lifestyle. Similar observations can >be made about all musical styles, but not about looping, so far, or >could you? >Even newer styles like techno, that also started as an anarchistic >movement have a distict beat and sound (and drug ;-), which is not >the case at all for the loopers comunity. > >So I am wondering more and more what the "thing" in looping is. >Do you believe in loops? Sounds silly. >Do you believe in the Echoplex? Sounds even more silly. >Do you believe in Reilly, Fripp, Glass,,, Some may do so, but since >those idols sound very different, its not what makes the meetings >happen. >Are there leaders to the group? There are always people that have >thought and experienced more than others, so we listen better to what >Richard Z, DT, Kim, sais, but if anyone of those would ask you to do >a certain thing, you would laugh out loud, so they have no power, the >whole movement is anarchistic! > >Maybe its about improvising. Looping definitally gives a new dimension to >it. > >Gary Hall got me from the air port and said more or less: >"Its an approach to composition based on interaction between the >musician and the processing." > >We may have disussed it enough. There is no need for a conclusion, we >just do what we feel is right and enjoy and learn and grow... > >I just wanted to say that I am extremely exited about beeing here! :-) >See you soon! >Matthias >-- > > > ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org > >