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I had an earlier version of Bob Sellon's upgrade in a JamMan that I reluctantly sold last year to move to the EDP/Repeater camp. The non-destructive and reversible fade is a terrific feature and I really wish I had it back. Although great for other reasons, feedback control as a fade isn't a subtitute for me because it is so tied to loop length. I usually want to fade in 20-30 secs, irregardless of loop length. And being able to fade it back in is totally cool. Controlling output volume manually with a volume pedal on the output is ok, but its hard to do so smoothly, and it takes attention to focus on that rather than introducing the next musical element. I'd love to see a midi command for the EDP that would do that. Bob