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At 05:49 PM 3/6/2002, Jon Wagner wrote: >>I usually want to fade in 20-30 secs, irregardless of loop length. > >WOW! I could never figure out why I thought feedback never seemed to >work >the way I wanted on the EDP - especially on long loops. Now I realize >that this is what I had secretly been wishing it would do. understand that fading and feedback are quite different things, and serve different purpose. One doesn't replace the other. Feedback is a tool for evolving and modifying loops, rather than just ending them. There is a lot to learn about feedback, how it works and what it is good for, check some of these links from the LD site: http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/echoplex/FAQ8.html http://www.loopers-delight.com/tips/Tips_fromLD.html#tips1 kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com