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If it is an older unit, you may find the EDP gain stage modification detailed in the FAQ to be useful: http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/echoplex/FAQ6.html#Anchor-47383 this mod has been added to the production for all units made in the last couple years though, so it may or may not apply to you. One thing this mod does is increase the output gain, since the original design was a little quiet. kim At 06:38 PM 3/10/2002, you wrote: >messed with input/output/mix controls to no avail. apparently the >solution >lies outside of the edp itself. the edp is just a little quiet >apparently. > >thanks for the suggestions all the same. > >back to the drawing board... > >-jim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com