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>I think the current consensus is the behringer box, at around $129. Right >guys? > >I'm waiting for mine to arrive, but from the looks of it's manuals, it's a >powerful beast. > > > what is the cheapest and best (i realize that those 2 >> contradict each other) MIDI controller to use with > > this unit? I've just been digging further down into the Repeater lately, controlling it with the Behringer FCB 1010. Pretty nice combination for the money, IMO. Nobody has got a pedal in that price range that can do as much. The combination of the Repeater's midi implementation and the Behringer works pretty well, especially if the Repeater is the ONLY beast you're controlling. This is due to the fact that the midi channel of the CC's (2), program changes (5) and the expression pedals (2) that the 1010 can send need to be setup GLOBALLY. this kindof sucks, since you might want the expression pedals to control one unit on one patch, but another unit on another patch. No can do on the 1010. If expression pedal 1 is setup to transmit on midi channel 2, then it's ALWAYS going out on channel 2, no matter what preset. that being said, if the Repeater is the only thing you're controlling, assign EVERYTHING to the appropriate midi channel and start programming! (your feet may be sore from the tap dancing you will have to do to program this thing, but at least your back won't be. once the GLOBAL setup is done, you can program it totally from foot presses. no bending over... Controlling the Repeater with the 1010 is super cool. If you get a newer unit, or can download the web update onto EPROM, you can also (supposedly) copy patches, which would cut down the tap dancing considerably. My setup is currently only using Patch Bank 00 and 01, for the moment, and the other patch banks are coming along as i get more comfortable with the unit. It looks like this bank 00 pedal 1: record/overdub pedal 2: play pedal 3: stop pedal 4: undo pedal 5: reverse pedal 6: record track select - scrolls through 1-4 pedal 7: loop select (down) pedal 8: loop select (up) pedal 9: multiply x2 pedal 10: loop erase exp pedal 1: overdub feedback exp pedal 2: pitch/time (down) pedal all the way forward = normal pitch, anything back from that takes pitch and time down, down, down, like a digitech rds/pds thing...it's nice that when you just slam the thing forward, everything comes back into pitch. you don't have to guess. also, my play button also has a CC command to bring it back to pitch, too. so if you are doing something whacked pitch wise, you can hit one button and you're back to normal. note: playing with this pitch/time bend function via the exp pedal, whilst playing with track pitch via the front panel leads to some VERY disorientating effects! bank 01 pedal 1: record/overdub pedal 2: play pedal 3: stop pedal 4: undo pedal 5: reverse pedal 6: jamman fade medium pedal 7: jamman fade long pedal 8: jamman cue loop 1 pedal 9: jamman cue loop 2 pedal 10: loop erase exp pedals: not implemented.....yet! so, a hearty recommendation for the behringer/repeater combo. i am really trying to get into the meat of this setup. it holds some very cool potential. one of my recent favorites is to setup a backing drone on one track, switch to a new track and start playing. stay in record/overdub and turn the feedback down to 0 with the exp pedal. Now the drone continues, but you only get ONE repeat of the phrase you just played last, and next time around, you will hear what you what you are playing....well....NOW. and so on and so on. ps. i originally thought that the overdub feedback thing was global, that all tracks would fade... not so! how freaking cool is that to have controllable feedback across 4 seperate tracks! pss. this is a deliberate crib of what i gleaned from watching Matthias play at loopstock. it's a great way to duet with yourself, but not get caught into a 'static' loop. each time through, it changes! reminds me a bit of the back and forth 'trading solos' of Tabla players. The Repeater does have a Multiply x2 function. If there was a easy way to 'trim x2', or something like that, you could really get into that Tabla solo trade thing, since they trade solos of 16 bars, then 8 bars, then 4, then 2, then 1, then 1/2, and so on... I haven't figured out an easy way to do that in a button push, but i'll keep trying! sorry for the long read, best, rich