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deknow@deknow.com writes: i don't know exactly what year the spectrum filter and 1600 came out, but there are referances to them at musicmachines (hyperreal) from at least 1995. while i 'd like to see peavey make better stuff (and i'm glad to hear the feedback ferre t is a good product), 3 products in 7 or more years doesn't even come close to s howing that peavey is now making only first rate products. _------------------------------------------- This IS reflexive Peavey bashing. They excellent equipment. Period. Their Cirrus basses are as good or better than anything at their price point. Same with their Classic series of tube guitar amps, their Raptor entry level electric guitars, their bass amps, PA systems, etc. If you go see working musicians anywher between the coasts you'll see Peavey gear featured prominently. When anybody comes into my store looking at small tube guitar amps, I always show the Classic 30 right after the Fender Blues Jr. They almost always pay the extra $20 for the Peavey. I spent 14 years on the road in Dr Hook, and we had a peavey endorsement from the get go, thanks to one of the other guitarists being one of Hartley's high school buddies. Frankly, the early stuff sucked, but it was free and we needed it. But the company listened to us, worked with us, and their stuff improved rapidly. Unfortunately, it took way too long to build what is the flagship product of any serious guitar amp company, a tube-driven lead guitar amp. And that is the source of most of the anti-Peavey bias that I'm aware of. And I'm still using the CS400 power amp I took when we folded the band almost 20 years ago, and it was 5 or 6 years old then. Sounds great, and if we ever get nuked, I expect that they'll be able to pull it out of the smoking rubble, plug it in and use it.