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The best thing about older PCs was they used to sometimes have "Turbo" buttons that would feed the exhaust back into the processor and you'd get a great kind of flanging tone from it. Mark On Thursday, April 11, 2002, at 11:07 PM, Luigi Meloni wrote: > That's the reason why his are so rare and sound better. I still have an > AMD > 486 dx2 80Mhz that I use for midi sequences with a very old Cakewalk > version > and Win3.11. 8Mb of ram and it sounds great. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Cummings" <billcumm@sprynet.com> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:02 AM > Subject: Re: O.T. Computers > > >> hahahaha, they didn't make 486's till 92/93 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" <ssrndpty@hotmail.com> >> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 5:13 PM >> Subject: Re: O.T. Computers >> >> >>> >>> Well, if it's tone your looking for, you are probably best using an >>> underclocked 486 (from '86- to '89), with no more than 4 megs of ram. > You >>> can't buy them any more, but there are two in my garage that I'm >>> willing >> to >>> part with for an exorbitant amount of money. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Mark Sottilaro" <sine@zerocrossing.net> >>> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:43 PM >>> Subject: Re: O.T. Computers >>> >>> >>>> Also, the G4 RISK processor sounds a lot warmer than Intel chips, in > my >>>> opinion. I think it has something to do with the way that Floating >> Point >>> Unit >>>> floats. >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> Luigi Meloni wrote: >>>> >>>>> That is the reason why i still use Win98se. I've got WinMe on my >>> notebook >>>>> and I think it sucks. The only good thing in it is the fact it can > use >>> WDM >>>>> drivers, which in cakewalk products allow a very little latency. >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Mark Sottilaro" <sine@zerocrossing.net> >>>>> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:58 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: O.T. Computers >>>>> >>>>>> No offense taken. I have Macs and PCs and drive a Golf. I'm not >>> saying >>>>> Apple >>>>>> is without sin, but when I hear that every time you add hardware > to >>> your >>>>> PC >>>>>> you've got to get a new serial number to run Windows XP, I cringe. >>> That's >>>>>> pretty damn evil. I like this debate, but it's a lot like > religion. >>>>>> >>>>>> CarlJacobson@cakewalk.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey I drive a Saturn and use a PC? What does that mean? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mark I meant no disrespect by my last message. That whole "evil >>> empire" >>>>>>> thing just gets under my skin sometimes...maybe I've read one to >>> many >>>>> Ayn >>>>>>> Rand books... >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> and for this question... >>>>>> >>>>>>> If I had a peice of gear that would only run on OS 9, and would >>> never >>>>> have >>>>>>> it's drivers upgraded ever, what would you recomend to house the >>> beast? >>>>> What >>>>>>> would be the cheapest option? What would I get from a more >> expensive >>>>> unit, >>>>>>> considering that I will never be able to upgrade it? What kind > of >>>>> software >>>>>>> will 'never go away'? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The gear in question is a Korg Oasys card. Probably the best >>>>> price/features >>>>>>> deal ever - more powerful than a Digi farm card, latency down to >> 1.5 >>> ms, >>>>>>> ASIO, ADAT I/O, comes with more than half the Triton sample > sound >>> set, >>>>> does >>>>>>> Z1 style synthesis, awesome AD/DA, but no support, no drivers, >> ever. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, here's the deal. I've got an Aurora Fuse video capture > card. >>> Was >>>>> the >>>>>> best I could afford at the time. Aurora has stated that they will >>> NEVER >>>>> write >>>>>> an OSX driver for it. They will give me their Igniter card... if > I >>> give >>>>> up >>>>>> another $500. Frankly, at that point, I'd sooner get a DV camera >> and >>> to >>>>> DV, >>>>>> since I'm using Final Cut Pro anyway, and have the Igniter RT card >> at >>>>> work. >>>>>> >>>>>> So.... When I need to capture analog video, or record in DP3, I >> reboot >>>>> into OS >>>>>> 9. It's a pretty good OS, all in all. Sure, OSX is better, but >> it's >>>>> still >>>>>> very new. I'm impressed at how little I've got to launch the >> "Classic >>>>>> environment" these days. If you really need a Mac box, I'd look > for >> a >>>>> used >>>>>> high end G3 or low end G4 and just stick to OS 9.2 >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >