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All the confusion arises from the closure of Trace Elliot manufacturing in January. No one at the time had any idea what would happen next and which products would still be made, if any. We all thought that we'd go our separate ways and find employment elsewhere, even in un-related industries. It would seem though, that you can't leave the music industry however hard you try and we find ourselves all working together again :) As far as I can tell, information given by all parties has been honest, it's just situations and circumstances that have changed. I couldn't possibly comment on the speed & accuracy of the Gibson press machine! Regards, Andy Ewen Echoplex Production Manager, working for Gibson via Trace Elliot via Straightedge. -----Original Message----- From: Rik Elswit [mailto:rik@well.com] Sent: 13 April 2002 00:36 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Gibson Echoplex Digital Pro discontinued? "Hi-According to Gibson US there will be no more available here in the US-Alto Music bought the remaining supply-Around 80 units." Our Gibson rep misinformed us, as well. As Andy said, there are plenty. We have a bunch on the shelf at Bananas. Rik Elswit Bananas at Large