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Thanks for the suggestions so far on creating emmersive sound at low-mid vol.levels, in a small environment. BTW, I'm currently using two mackie SRM450's. They are very ergonomic, and sound really great from 20+ feet away. I haven't given up on them, but they don't give me 'emmersive' sound I'm looking for in a small environment. The larger mackie powered PAs (2-way and 3way) sound significantly better!, but maybe overkill for small rooms. Mid-field studio monitors might work with subs. I'm also considering boutique amp/cabinets, which sound more open and have better bass in the mid-field than the SRM450s. Do you think that 2-4 high quality, small cabs(or powered PAs) dispersed in the room, plus sub(s) may be the best way to give the audience a sense of being enveloped in sound, even at quiet levels they can talk over? -Qua -----Original Message----- From: Per Boysen [mailto:per@boysen.se] Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 12:02 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: SV: emmersive sound > Fran: Mark Sottilaro [mailto:sine@zerocrossing.net] > One of the best shows I've ever played was a private little "chill rave" > called WOOM. It was great because they had really nice Mackie monitors.... // > Mark Sottilaro Mark, Was this the Mackie HR824 you were testing? I've been thinking about them as studio monitors and I'm wondering if they could also do the job live, together with a sub woofer? For small looping gigs in a chilled out environment that is. Best wishes Per Boysen ________________ http://loopboy.tk www.boysen.se www.upsweden.com www.fuzz.se