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At 11:52 AM -0400 5/5/02, Michael LaMeyer wrote: >it's due to the PC implementation (there are two types, >one with PC messages starting at '1' and another with PC >messages starting at '0' Strictly speaking, there is only one type of Program Change implementation, ranging from 0 to 127. However, different manufacturers implement the user interface differently, representing the 0-127 message values as 1-128. There are also some devices (typical of older Roland keyboards) where the programs are organized in banks of eight, so that it appears to the user that the program change messages run from 11 to 88 when what is actually being sent is 0-63. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz