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oh yeah angelo, btw, check in your local radio shack type store. if you're lucky, they'll have the cassettes laying around in lengths from 15 seconds to 5 minutes. should be near the phones. you'll also find splicing tape and a splicing block there. if you're *really* lucky they'll be clearing them out for like 50 cents apiece. if you can't find them at radio shack, look for old answering machines in thrift stores. have fun! Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Zvonar <zvonar@zvonar.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Cc: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 4:49 PM Subject: Re: basic loops > At 1:34 PM -0700 5/7/02, angelo valadon wrote: > >i want to loop a normal audio cassette tape, but i can't figure out > >how to provide the necessary tension/friction to make the tape spin. > >once detached from the wheel the wheels of course just turn without > >moving the tape. > > Loop cassettes are available in various lengths. These will work in > any cassette deck, with the proviso that they are "single sided" - > that is the cassette is constructed to run in one direction only and > you can't flip it over or rewind it. > > In my experience with loop cassettes I've found that there is > invariably a dropout at the punch in/out point. Perhaps someone else > has developed some techniques to circumvent this? > -- > > ______________________________________________________________ > Richard Zvonar, PhD > (818) 788-2202 > http://www.zvonar.com > http://RZCybernetics.com > http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone > http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz >