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hey, I guess this was part of my question too, but I never included in the text, which would make it hard to answer since technically it wasn't asked. But now that you've let the cat out - how do, or did, you infinitely experienced loopers go about starting your music-making? personally, pre-aquisition stage, I've always jammed with loops in mind, or tried to auralise just what whatever it is I'm playing would sound like being repeated. Unfortunately, my mind doesn't work too well with overdub, and that's why I require all these pseudo cybernetic extensions of what I feel are intrinsic human looping capabilities. at the moment, my approach largely does consist of the mess with stuff! approach as advocated by mike, but I would like to start incorporating a little more structure in with the mayhem. Is looping, in all practicalities, largely depepndent on emergent phenomenon arising from the mess with stuff! approach? What other possibilities lie in the loop? -michael > I'd like to ask the members of the list what approach > you took to making loop-based music when just starting out? > Sincerely, > Chris Olden > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > >