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At 5:12 PM -0700 6/3/02, Andre LaFosse wrote: >Thanks for the information regarding the ACF; I looked at the site >and it's definitely an intriguing orgnanization...At the same time, >though, I can't help but feel that it doesn't really address the >idea (such as it is) of an LA "looping scene," you know? I brought up ACF not as a specific example of a "looping scene" but as an example of a non-pop "music scene" in Los Angeles. The point I was trying to make is that you have to create your own scene by working with whatever tools come to hand. ACF works for me and it's an inclusive enough organization that it might also benefit other members of this group. >That, to me, is the fundamental issue of the thread - a guy thinking >about moving out here to be part of the "big California loop scene," and >the underlying question of, "Well, how much of a loop scene is there, >really?" And I thought the thread had moved past that initial discussion into one about the nature of the West Coast scene and some analysis of what you have to do to build a community. >areas of musical style and genre (in a general sense) rather than areas of >musical technique. If technique is your main concern then I can see why ACF wouldn't appeal to you. Our community is musically pluralistic and our techniques are varied. Some people are doing improvisational electroacoustic music and some people are writing sacred choral music. It's all interesting to me >What if someone wants to present a loop based approach that's >totally improvised and doesn't involve composition? Not an issue. I'm not sure I think in terms of "total improvisation" - for me it's more like "real-time composition." >What if it owes more to dance and DJ culture than the academic or "new >music" world? Even less of an issue. We're actively interested in bringing dance and DJ practitioners into our group. >What if someone's using amazing Repeater technique in a live rock band? Great! >The ACF doesn't seem to offer an outlet for these sorts of issues. Does that mean our Web site is too fancy? >the age old issue of "Is looping a style of music, or is it a >technique that crosses different styles?" "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn." It's both, depending on who is doing it and a what moment he/she is doing it. For instance, I don't particularly think of myself as "a looper" but I use looping tools and techniques in my music. I have never aspired to the technical prowess that you and some other loopers have achieved, but I sure dig what you are able to do on BOTH a technical and a musical level. >The fact that people might tend to equate looping with any particular >genre or style of music is potentially problematic Yes. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz