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You folks seem pretty high-end, so I'm going to sound pretty dopey. But I want desperately to find an effect that will give me a very long delay with a long ( adjustable) decay time. With my dream tool I could: - Set a long delay time (10 seconds for the piece I'm working out now, but in the future the longer the better). - set the number of repeats of each layer - the idea being that material will pass in and out of the texture for a pre-determined duration. - set the decay rate or curve. So (for example) I could have my analog signal continually overdubbing, repeating every 10 seconds, repeating 10 times and I could set the loops to either keep a consistent volume through the 10 reps and then drop out, leaving later material still repeating - OR i could set a certain decay curve so that the earlier material fades to zero while new material is always predominant. Oh and this is all real-time. No bringing saved loops to the gig. Anyway, I've played with a Jamman with extra 32" memory and although it doesn't have all the features I am keeping my eye out for one. The features of the BOSS RC-20 seem interesting at the price to me. Fiddling with dials during performance is not necesarilly a problem since this is for a vocalist seated in front of the toys. So for those with experience with the RC-20: Can I loop indefinate # of loops up to the 5:30 limit? If it plays only ten loops, are these played real-time, simultaneously, and can I record the 10th loop while the previous 9 are playing? Do any of these questions make sense? For the piece I'm working on, I could make ten reps work since i have other effects going on. Tempo, quantizing, etc are of not a concern. I will not use this as a practicing tool. Also I imagine that with a looper as opposed to an echo-style delay unit, I won't get ANY decay, but for me that's better than having a decay that I can't finely adjust. OK. So if anyone has advice on the BOSS, or wants to suggest a similarly (or lower - ) priced alternative for my proposed purposes, I'd be greatly grateful! Best.. W.L. --