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Would what you're describing be akin to what Robert Fripp does with his soundscapes? I used to play a lot with a similar effect, using a harmonizer where I could control the pitch with one pedal, and then control the delay time with another pedal. This seemed like it was grandulating the sound, and pitchshifting it all over the place. Having the feedback on high worked really well. I kind of abandoned that effect when I started hearing it A LOT on stuff, but it's still fun. To do it well, you've got to have the two pedals, and be sitting on a stool so you can work the both at the same time like some other looping guitarist we all know... Mark Sottilaro Pedro Felix wrote: > hey Evan I think you may be on to something: > strange sometimes how i mentioned this subject several > times since October of last year, and when I mention > that I have been doing some form of what I call SONIC > Snowflaking the list goes limp. > now what I am attempting to do pushes the envelope > which is why I am interested in what others are doing, > et cetera. > otherwise the waters will part, Pedro Felix - NYC 2002