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I have one of the original "Gibson" Echoplexes with firmware 3.3. It actually does pretty much everything I'd like (that damn input/output level thing is horrid but I can't complain about the software) I was thinking about upgrading to 5.0 but didn't really care either way. I figure since some people might be upgrading to the new Aurisis software they'd be getting rid of that nasty ol' 5.0 stuff which bottom feeders like myself could actually use. So, if you're one such person and you might be interested in trading something small or whatever for your old software please let me know. I'm sure I have some crusty stompbox or certainly some cool loop/electronic music CDs I could swap. I'm not trying to lowball but if it's too much money I might as well just by the new one (which I'll probably do anyway down the road) but this is a good intermediate step. Thanks for any/all help!