Re: Who Are The Commies?

["Luigi Meloni" <Luigimeloni74@libero.it>]

I am a commy...:-) And proud of it, seeing where right wing parties brought
us to in recent history... But that has nothing to do with music and loops.
And I don't absolutely think that it is bad that artists get paid for what
they create and for their work. Else I wouldn't be one. All I think is that
Artists should get paid, not corporate powers (and CARP and RIAA don't work
for glory, but for their income, look it one way or another). But if an
Artist, one time or another, wants to give some of his music for free he
should be able to do it without having to deal with corporate powers.
Heck, in Italy we have to pay the rights organization even if we do some
free concert playing our own music (we'll get the money back in a year or
two minus 40%, so, basically, we pay to play for free).

Now get back to looping stuff, please.

RIAA and CARP will do whatever they want to even if we continue this talk 
ad
libitum.

Peace
Luigi

----- Original Message -----
From: "jdurant" <jdurant@alchemyrecords.com>
To: "Loopers-Delight" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 2:16 PM
Subject: Who Are The Commies?


> Thanks to Kim and Andre and DT for making sense out of this nonsense.
> It's amazing to me how quickly a small dose of economic reality turns
> into the end of the world here on the internet. Here's the thing:
> internet webcasters have not been paying for the music they've played.
> Now they have to. This is bad?
>
> Andre wrote:
>
> >It's a similar principle to what Kim is talking about in his posts:
> >getting attention, exposure, listeners, and all the rest is great.  But
> >traffic in and of itself doesn't mean you're making money.  Name
> >recognition in and of itself doesn't bring you money.  Having people dig
> >what you do in and of itself doesn't bring in money.
>
> This is correct. Very. Trust me, I know this from experience, and several
> hundreds of thousands of dollars lost on a label that I started because
> of the possibilities that the internet offered. The problem is that there
> is a persistant mentality on the web that everything oughtta be free.
> Well guess what: it's not. It costs real money to make, market and
> distribute a record. It's not just the buck and a half it costs to
> duplicate them.
>
> Also: in an exchange between Richard and Kim:
>
> >>Many (if not a majority) of us are making music that appeals to one or
> >>another of the many small "mini-markets" that are not served by either
the
> >>major record companies or the major broadcasters and Webcasters. The
CARP
> >>fee structure was based on an economic model of a major Webcaster
(Yahoo,
> >>to be specific) and this doesn't take into account the economics of the
> >>minor Webcasters.
> >
> >This is the part I really don't get. How doesn't it meet the economics 
>of
> >small webcasters? If you are small, then your costs are lower. Scale
> >revenues to meet them. I'm really not understanding why its a problem or
> >how the CARP thing is so debilitating. I'm coming from a position of
being
> >a little guy in a big pool, as far as web publishing goes. I know 
>exactly
> >what the economics of it are like. I did a quick run of the CARP numbers
as
> >far as I understand them, and to me it doesn't add up to something that
is
> >unattainable, whether you are big or small.
>
> Someone here suggested starting a web radio station that would play
> nothing but independent music, no labels, no bmi/ascap people. Go for it.
> Don't let the laughter from the bank stop you. Do us all a favor, though,
> and tell us how much money you lose every year.
>
> It's really simple: either you're in business, or you're not. If you
> don't care about making money from your music, that's fine. That's your
> call. But does that mean that DT shouldn't be trying to earn a living and
> put his two kids through college? If you broadcast his music, of course
> you should pay a fee.
>
> The RIAA are not commies. The commies are the people here who don't think
> making a profit is a good thing. The people who believe that all music
> should be given out for free.
>
> Internet broadcasting will survive just fine with an additional fee of
> .07 cents per song. If a broadcaster goes down in flames it will be
> because they didn't have a proper business plan to begin with.
>
> jd
>
>