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RE: Expanded Midi Commands and the EDP



Andre-

I'm on my way (if i can get my lovely [sweettalk never hurts when a new
device isn't working the way you thought it should when you bought it] 
MFC10
to work with me lovely EDP) to some things that you describe below.

My question lies around your statement:
"A bank where the top row contains note values to select different loops".

Where do these "different loops" come from?  Did you just create them at
that moment and your are switching between them somehow?  Did you pre-load
them via MIDI?

This is one of the few areas (along with the fact that its the only box in
my rig that's NOT stereo) that i don't have a usable mental handle on 
yet...
Storing EDP loops and switching from loop 2 to say... loop 6 at the touch 
of
a button.  It seems the Repeater does all this fairly seamlessly, but the
EDP, i haven't figured out how to do what you are talking about.  But, i'm
dreaming about it, so i'm HALFWAY there.  ; )

cheers,
jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: Andre LaFosse [mailto:altruist@earthlink.net]
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 5:29 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Expanded Midi Commands and the EDP


Hi again Steven,

"M. Steven Ginn" wrote:

> First, is there a midi commands list somewhere for the EDP (Loop III)?

There is (in the LoopIII manual), but it's duplicated in the LoopIV MIDI
commands list.
 
> For example what is meant by "source# offset"?  And,
> where does the Note value fit into the programming scheme?

They're interrelated.  There's a parameter called "ControlSource" which
lets you select the starting note/CC value which the MIDI commands table
is based upon.  The default value for this is 36.

So, for instance, the default "source# offset" for Record is 2.  If
ControlSource is set to 36, then the MIDI note (or CC number) to engage
Record would be 38 (ControlSource=36 + source# offset=2). 

> Finally, is it recommended that all of these functions be programmed for
> use by a foot controller and if so, which ones would most likely be used
> during a performance?

It's a really personal issue, because so many of the DirectMIDI commands
lend themselves to different types of techniques.  For myself, I have
different banks on my MIDI footpedal, each one of which has a different
collection of DirectMIDI commands programmed into them.

The best advice I would offer would be to pick a few commands that look
intriguing, assign them to a MIDI controller, and experiment.  You'll
likely find that different commands work better, depending on your
playing style.

A few examples of ways to group DirectMIDI commands:

-- A "sus-mania" bank with lots of different SUS-commands available (I
love this one)

-- A bank where the top row contains note values to select different
loops, and the bottom row allows you to perform different functions
within a loop (overdub, insert, multiply, etc.) so you can switch
between loops quickly 

-- An "insert-mania" bank with lots of different Insert modes available
at once (Reverse, Half-Speed, Replace, Substitute, SUS, etc.) so you can
access them all at the same time without having to change the front
panel Insertmode.

Trial and error are the keys here - take some time and experiment to see
what works best for you.  

--Andre LaFosse
http://www.altruistmusic.com