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"i have new units. both of 'em seem to have low output levels, in relation to my (3) other output signals. maybe they've got the guts'n'brains of older units, but re-done w/gibson faceplates? hmmm....." this is an educated guess, but i think the newer (and "upgraded") units are still relatively quiet. i sent my new edp to shane radke and he wrote back saying "nope, nothing wrong...newer resistors, etc." and so i suppose we just have to live with the volume effect of the edp's input/output section...an inconvenient yet SMALL price to pay, imho. -jim