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In a message dated 7/31/2002 2:55:56 PM Mountain Daylight Time, stanitarium@earthlink.net writes: << where he puts it thru its paces(but w/ footpedal!) s >> Actually the footpedal was a pain in the ass and added rather unambient clunks to your loop, even if you were careful. Which is not to say that after 15 years of service I was not sorry to see it become someone elses box (an associate of Nels Cline).After tape loops it opened up a world of sonic manipulation that I enjoy listening to some of the results of to this day.The half speed backwards function possible in the EDP LoopIV upgrade is a nod in the direction of this box and it's lore. b.helm