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Mike- I just now on the verge of acquiring David Myers' Repeater second-hand, so i'm not the person to ask about the Repeater. However, the EDP does what i want it to do and more. You can always record your loops and sample them. The only thing that i find inferior about the EDP is that its the only device in my rig that is not stereo. It sucks to have everything in stereo all the way through the chain and then, have to go to mono at the end. Still, i'm looping sax, bass clarinet, wind controller, tabla and various percussion through it with decent sound quality to all. I'm actually planning on experimenting with using both the Repeater and Echoplex at the same time. I've got some feedback ideas that i'm going to try.... cheers, jim. -----Original Message----- From: mcolon@VisionAIR.com [mailto:mcolon@VisionAIR.com] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 9:21 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: newbie James, thanks for the reply and suggestion. I was wondering about the echoplex digital pro. I noticed it has the option of multiplying, and allowing you to make a longer phrase looped over the short original loop. Do you know if the electrix repeater allows this? Also the EDP allows for undoing one overdub at a time, does a repeater allow that also. I've been searching the manual for this, but can't find any answers. I am interested in a repeater more, because of it's saving capabilities. the repeater seems to be basically a 4-track recorder, looper in one. Also, one mixing 4 tracks down to one to free up other tracks on the repeater, do you lose sound quality from if these tracks would have been left on individual tracks? Also, the edp allows you to switch loops on the fly seamlessly. Do you know if the repeater allows loops to be switched automatically without skipping a beat. This would be useful in switching sections automatically in live performance, and i'm wondering if when switching loops, does the loop time stay the same? thanks to eveyrone who answers these questions for me later sharing in grooves mike http://db.etree.org/jam <http://db.etree.org/jam> www.tapercities.com/Phishpond/mcolon -----Original Message----- From: Lanpheer, James A [ mailto:Lanpheer.James.A@broadband.att.com <mailto:Lanpheer.James.A@broadband.att.com> ] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 3:23 PM To: 'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com' Subject: RE: newbie Mike- I use a Yamaha WX7 WC. To do what you are asking, i use a Echoplex Digital Pro. If you search the archives, you will find tons of information about it there. I also use the Line6 delay stompbox which has some sampling for shorter phrases. There are a variety of looping tools that can do what you are asking about. You don't need a MIDI sampler to do what you require. As a start, i'd recommend that you look at the Line6, EDP, Electrix Repeater (this product is discontinued, but they are still around) and the Boomerang. I control my EDP with a Yamaha MFC10 footswitch. There are other MIDI footpedals that can do the job as well. Bottom line, decide exactly what you want to do with your setup, look into the devices above and find what does what you seek in the most cost-effective way. By searching the archives, you can learn tons about people's experiences with the various choices i threw out above (which was not a complete list, btw...just a teaser). cheers, jim. -----Original Message----- From: mcolon@VisionAIR.com [ mailto:mcolon@VisionAIR.com <mailto:mcolon@VisionAIR.com> ] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:17 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: newbie What's up everyone, my name is mike, and i just joined this list. I am new to the world of digital sampling and need some advice. I own a Yamaha WX5 Midi Wind Controller. I plan on using this for gigging, and would like to sample phrases, and have immediate playback. So i am going to need something that is foot pedal oriented, cause i am going to be improvising and doing all this live. I'm not going to be working on these phrases at home, recording them, and then playing to tracks. I want something that i can immediately hit a footswitch start recording, and then hit stop, and it loop it. I would like something that does more than just one loop also. I'm not sure if a midi sampler is the best way to go or not. Should i just use a phrase sampler that records analog, like a guitar sampler. Or is midi the best way to go, since my instrument is midi. And is there a footswitch type pedal for midi that fits what i need? All help would be greatly appreciated. thanks very much sharin in grooves Mike http://db.etree.org/jam <http://db.etree.org/jam> < http://db.etree.org/jam <http://db.etree.org/jam> >