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<<Tron Up & Tron Down are based on the Mu-Tron envelope follower. Essentially the filter frequency is altered by the volume of the input. So a kind of auto wah. Very good for funk guitar & bass sounds>> Also good for that Jerry Garcia sound, as well. Your cover of Estimated Prophet isn't complete without it. :-) The Obi-Wah setting emulates the random setting on the Oberheim VCF pedal, which is what Frank Zappa used to get that weird jumping filter effect on Ship Ahoy from Shut Up N Play Yer Guitar Some More. I have the pedal version of the Filter Modeler, and while I do agree the synth models aren't the greatest (only the Octi-synth really comes close to being useful for my purposes), most of the other programs are great. I particular like the Mu-Tron model, Obi-wah, Seek Wah, and Q-filter settings. Using the Q-filter, I was able to get some good feedback effects. By varying the filter frequency, I could control the feedback note, to some degree. With a little echo, this becomes hellacious looping material. :-) ===== May you never thirst! The Scuba Diver Presently Known As Chris "What do you get when you give a yo-yo to a flock of flamingos?"-James Earl Jones __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com