Re: The Legendary Electro-Harmonix 16 Second Delay

[Hedewa7@aol.com]

ms,

>None really taken, I just get a bit cranky (before morning caffeine
>especially) when everything is taken so seriously. 
eek. i can't speak before the first dbl of the day.

> Would it really be
>a
>horrible thing to be known as "David Torn: The Man Who Thought The EH16
>Was UNIQUE"?
no, but.
i didn't thought you were merely saying it was unique, which it was not 
(but 
for the rev-switch).
also, this is kinda a small community of friendly sorts, and i really 
don't 
like being misunderstood, where it can be avoided.....
  
>Was the EH16 not a unique box?  Many devices probably share
>some of it's functions, but at what price?  Did they have as nice an
>interface?  (and that is subjective) Funky foot controller?  The PCM42
>was
>for sure a more "hi-fi" box aimed at studio applications, where as the
>EH16  seemed to be aimed at guitarists (Fripp in a box) as a stomp box.
>All of these differences to all other devices make it... unique?  Am I
>wrong here?
well, for the price-point-thang: yeah.

>Now, of course there are a bunch of looping devices out there, some that
>behaved in similar fashion to the EH16.  Frankly, my Repeater with a
>Lexicon MPX1 in it's effects loop will run rings around the EH16. IN MY
>OPINION.  But that's not what I was saying.  I was saying that the EH16
>was not exactly like anything else.  But when you say that you don't think
>it's unique, you are telling me that you know of something that's exactly
>like it.  Well, that's nice.
>Welcome to my United States of Whatever.

want another espresso, on me?
what you said was:

>A little while ago we decided that nothing came 
>close to this little box.
that doesn't say 'unique', to me; i understood you to mean something like 
'beyond its competitors':
i clearly misunderstood.

>Basically, when I answered the two people that came on and said, "I'm new
>to the list, does anyone know about the EH16?" I just wanted to try and
>be
>helpful to point out devices that do exist that can easily be obtained,
>not to suggest that one my ever totally replace a dead product like the
>EH16.  If someone came on and said, "I'm new to looping and I want to buy
>a Repeater, but can't find one..." I'd say, "Well, it's dead, but you
>might want to check out the EDP."  Not that the EDP is the same as the
>Repeater, but that it will probably be of interest to someone that's
>looking to get into looping.  Anyway, I'm just trying to be a bit of a
>loop evangelist, and maybe help point out gear possibilities to people
>who
>are looking for gear that is no longer made.  It seems that when I do
>this, someone has to come down on me for suggesting that something could
>possibly take the place of their beloved <insert fave gear here>.  Well,
>something WILL take the place of dead gear.  It's inevitable.  Evolution
>doesn't mean things get better.  It just means things change.
okay.
wasn't coming down on you.
wasn't following complete thread, and misunderstood you.
my mistake.
offer of coffee still stands.
best,
dt / s-c