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On the subject of limiters and clipping, not only will the unlimited signal be louder, but if it's clipping, it will have an increase of harmonic content that will make it seem even louder (we're more sensitive to upper midrange and high frequencies) than it is. This might be contributing to your problem. Mark Kim Flint wrote: > New units have a limiter on the loop input, old units do not. If you have > the level turned up to where the new one is engaging the limiter, it >would > end up sounding lower in volume (and probably compressed) in relation to > the other unit. The other unit is probably slightly clipping, however. > (that is why the limiter is there.) Try turning input vol down on both. > > or, if you like playing with the ohm meter, check the volume > potentiometers, maybe they are different for some reason. > > kim