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Michael, In a message dated 8/23/02 12:24:57 PM, Nemoguitt@aol.com writes: >do you really believe that some are "proud" to make music people don't >like? I know your question was to Kim, but I thought I'd chime in here too. I know people who are (quite perversely) EXTREMELY proud of their self-perception as iconoclasts. It sort of plays into the whole "suffering artist as professional pop-cultural victim" syndrome. I could name names but shall decline to do so. I have close artist and musician friends who are the living image of this (at least on the surface). For the record . . . I am very aware that I (for one) make music that most folks don't like. I need look no further than my most immediate "significant others" to find that out. But it's not that I set out to be "unpopular" by design. Maybe it's just bad music. Maybe it's just me. But I do what I do. I play the stuff I do because it pleases me to do so. It'd be terrific if it were popular enough to be a self-sustaining activity . . . really! But it's not as yet (as if it even ever will be) and there is no point crying about its lack of prospects. It's certainly gratifying enough that a few folks do. But I'd still be doing it even if they didn't. I imagine that there are a lot of folks like this on this list -- not entirely indifferent to popularity -- but not particularly enslaved to it either. Maybe I'm naive. Maybe I'm just fooling myself. Maybe we're all bozo "wannabes" on this bus. Best regards, Ted Killian www.mp3.com/tedkillian http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html