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You make me *so* glad I just bought a backup Repeater, Mark :) And if I'm able to get them to sync well enough to have an 8-track looper, I'll be sure to let y'all know!! Won't get a chance to try for a while though, since I just loaned "looper jr" to a friend :) Elby > Subject: Why I love the Repeater (was;Re: Repeater spotted for sale) > Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 11:07:56 -0700 > From: Mark Sottilaro <sine@zerocrossing.net> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Jon Wagner and I had this talk yesterday. After an amazing EDP day, > we > still looked at each other and said, "God, the Repeater is amazing. > What will happen if ours were to break!? THE HORROR!" > > So where do I start? First synching. > > While the Repeater's output clock is dubious, a lot of devices don't > seem to have an issue with it, including the EDP. Both Jon Wagner and > I > have done this successfully. But that's not the Repeater's strong > suit. > It's how it synchs to other devices. With the EDP you can imagine > your > loops are made of fine spun glass fiber. You can splice more or take > chunks away, but try to stretch it and BLAM. Totally rigid in this > respect. Now the Repeater's loops are like Silly Putty. (Who here > has > not experienced the joy that is pressing Silly Putty on to the Sunday > comix to make Snoopy look like an Robert Crumb nightmare?!) Slow > down > your sequence (within reason, but pretty far) or speed it up, and the > Repeater behaves like an obedient puppy. It might take a few moments > for it to catch up with you, but it will stay by your side. Your > pitch? Stays the same. Artifacts? Some, but totally usable and > damn > good compared to a lot of other devices that try to do this in real > time. I never realized how I took this for granted until I put the > EDP > in my rig. If I've got an EDP loop going, I'd better not touch that > BPM > slider on my Roland MC-307 unless I'm preparing to get weird with the > tempo. I must admit, not having Loop4 does prevent me from going > back > to my original tempo and doing a realign command. This does open up > possibilities for sure. > > So, what else? You can time stretch and compress and pitch shift in > a > very fluid way. The inverse of the above is the pitch thing. The > EDPs > half speed and double speed pales in comparison. Sorry kids. The > Repeater will run rings around any other looping device in this > arena. > Name the interval and you're there. Play your loops with a MIDI > keyboard. I think you get an octave up and two down. Your tempo? > Right on. Oh LOOK AT ME! I'm now playing my loop backwards at 80% > of > it's original tempo up a fifth. WEEEEEEE! > > And who can forget STEREO. Sure, the Repeater and EDP now cost about > the same but I don't care who you are, if you plan to record music it > will be played back on a stereo system. The Repeater is STEREO. > Sure > you can post process your loops with a stereo effect, but trust me, > it > isn't the same. Also, I'm not just looping guitar, I've got 1028 > juicy > stereo sounds that come from my synth, as well as the output of the > AirFX and AirSynth. To bump those down to mono would be a damn > shame. > Believe me, it's one of the main reasons I haven't really hit the EDP > that hard since I got it. To me this is VERY important and I don't > have > the cash for another one. > > While were on it, forget stereo, the Repeater is a multitrack device > that can deal with 4 tracks, how ever you'd like to deal with them. > Two > stereo pairs, one stereo pair and two mono, whatever. You can take > each > track and "slip" it in relationship with the others, while all the > time > still maintaining the tempo! Really useful. > > Stereo Effects loop. YUM. To do what I do with the Repeater, I'd > not > only need another EDP, but some signal routing device like a mixer > with > stereo aux sends or a Switchblade router. Switchblades START at > $750! > That means I've spent $2050! YIPE! If you don't care about an > effects > loop, you can route each track to it's own output for quad looping > madness. > > The 16 meg it comes with is nothing. OK for my grandmom's looper. > Get > an $80 smartmedia card and you've now got 128 meg! 8 minute loop > length > limit! Longest out there of any hardware looper. The end. > > And you still get a lot of the functionality of the EDP with things > like > Loop multiply, different overdub modes, undo, ect. You don't get the > yummy insert modes though. This ability to splice bits onto your > loop > is where the Repeater lacks. I never knew I needed these until > yesterday though! I'm still not sure I can even use them much, as > they'd screw up the MIDI synch that's so much a part of my deal. > > Last, but not least, for those DJs out there that need to take bits > of > what they're mixing and loop it, the Repeater's Beat Detect is really > good. For fun, I'll put it in beat detect mode and just play into > it, > changing my tempo making the Repeater CRAZY trying to find me. Oh, > it's > get's weird quick. All the time, I can be in Record too. > > OK, I'm sure there's more, but I'm tired of typing. > > Mark Sottilaro >