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The WORLD is not the US. Here in Italy, for example, is full of 70's and 80's influenced bands, even in the charts. In Germany and northern europe is full of Santana, 80's power metal (and instrumental metal) followers. In Japan the instrumental metal and the 70's and 80's music are still great on the charts. In south america Santana is one of the greats on the charts. God, even Sepultura told that Santana had been an influence for them. In England one of the top-charting bands is Oasis... Must I tell you who influenced them? and Travis? and all the other fake-beatles, fake-rolling stones and fake-velvet undergrounds even on the almighty US Charts? Who do you refer to when you tell that 60's 70'and 80's artists are not influential anymore? And being influenced by an artist doesn't mean to be a clone of the artist. Peace Luigi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Flint" <kflint@loopers-delight.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 5:47 AM Subject: Re: Nu Metal vs. Steve Vai vs. Santana > Wow, I had no idea Santana fans were so sensitive. > > if Santana as a cultural event were so influential, I should be able to > look out in the world today and see the result of that influence. There > should be little Santana clones crawling all over the charts. > > In case you haven't checked lately, they are not there. > > http://www.billboard.com/billboard/charts/bb200.jsp > http://www.billboard.com/billboard/charts/hot100.jsp > http://www.billboard.com/billboard/charts/randb.jsp > http://www.billboard.com/billboard/charts/airplay/modern.jsp > http://www.billboard.com/billboard/charts/electronic.jsp > http://www.billboard.com/billboard/charts/indie_albums.jsp > http://www.billboard.com/billboard/charts/airplay/adult.jsp > > I'm not saying Santana is bad or that he wasn't influential a long time > ago. But "influential" means large numbers of other people are following > the lead in the present. Today, right now in the present, I don't see those > followers there. The popular music world is not listening to that style. > Nor are they listening to prog-rock. They are listening to a parade of > female R&B singers, another parade of rappers, heavy yet song-oriented > Nu-Metal, another parade of female pop-rock singers, arena rock pearl jam > copies like Creed, a bit of aggro country like Toby Keith, and of course, > Eminem who is everywhere. > > I'm sorry if the world doesn't share your tastes in music. > > In my opinion that Santana album from three years ago was a fluke based >on > what is popular otherwise both then and now. As someone else pointed out, > it was a slick move by Arista, pairing Santana up with every other big name > on their hip-hop and alt-rock roster. The fans of all those other stars > bought the record too, and Santana got a nice ride. Good for him. But the > closest thing I've seen to a guitar soloist in popular music since then >is > the White Stripes, and they obviously aren't influenced by Santana. > > Tacking looping onto older artists who's star has set and are no longer > relevant is not going to get the concept a new level of acceptance in the > world. I'm sorry that troubles you. > > kim > > > At 09:37 PM 8/23/2002, Rick Walker/Loop.pooL wrote: > >Our esteemed leader, Kim wrote: > > > >"well duh. Santana is great, but he's old news. Everybody who was going to > >be influenced by Santana already got influenced 25 years ago. The "nu metal > >jerk" probably reaches far more people today than Santana has in years." > > > > > >I agree with your take on Vai, Steve, but I think you are dead wrong about > >Santana. > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com >